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Added also, (by the administrator of this website),  are comments, on only one of many serious errors in the NIV Bible.

Brooke Foss Westcott (an Anglican bishop and professor at Cambridge University) and Fenton John Anthony Hort (also an ordained priest and professor at Cambridge) produced a Greek New Testament in 1881 based on the findings of Tischendorf. This Greek New Testament was the basis for the Revised Version of that same year. They also developed a theory of textual criticism which underlay their Greek New Testament and several other Greek New Testaments since (including the Nestle-Aland text).

Greek New Testaments such as these produced most of the modern English translations of the Bible we have today.
On one side, their supporters have heralded them as great men of God, having greatly advanced the search for the original Greek text. On the other side, their opponents have leveled charges of heresy, infidelity, apostasy, and many others, claiming that they are guilty of wreaking great damage on the true text of Scripture.
I have no desire to sling mud nor a desire to hide facts. I just want to share the truth about these men. So, put on your seatbelt, and get ready for a quick ride through the beliefs of Westcott and Hort.

In order to give you an idea of what they REALLY believed and what their REAL intentions were when creating their Greek New Testament, I will let the men speak for themselves. I will tell you nothing. I will merely let these two men speak for themselves. The rest of this page will be only quotations. If this makes you angry, don't be angry with me...I'm just giving you the words of Westcott and Hort.

TELLING QUOTATIONS FROM WESTCOTT AND HORT.
*Concerning the Deity of Christ:*
"He never speaks of Himself directly as God, but the aim of His revelation was to lead men to see God in Him." (Westcott, The Gospel According to St. John, p. 297).
"(John) does not expressly affirm the identification of the Word with Jesus Christ." (Westcott, Ibid., p. 16).
*Concerning the Scriptures:*
"I reject the infallibility of Holy Scriptures overwhelmingly." (Westcott, The Life and Letters of Brook Foss Westcott, Vol. I, p.207).
"Our Bible as well as our Faith is a mere compromise." (Westcott, On the Canon of the New Testament, p. vii).
"Evangelicals seem to me perverted rather than untrue. There are, I fear, still more serious differences between us on the subject of authority, especially the authority of the Bible." (Hort, The Life and Letters of Fenton John Anthony Hort, Vol. I, p.400)
*Concerning Hell:*
"(Hell is) not the place of punishment of the guilty, (it is) the common abode of departed spirits. (Westcott, Historic Faith, pp.77-78).
"We have no sure knowledge of future punishment, and the word eternal has a far higher meaning." (Hort, Life and Letters, Vol. I, p.149).
*Concerning Creation:*
"No one now, I suppose, holds that the first three chapters of Genesis, for example, give a literal history. I could never understand how anyone reading them with open eyes could think they did." (Westcott, cited from Which Bible?, p. 191).
"But the book which has most engaged me is Darwin. Whatever may be thought of it, it is a book that one is proud to be contemporary with..... My feeling is strong that the theory is unanswerable." (Hort, cited from Which Bible?, p. 189)
*Concerning the Atonement:*
"I think I mentioned to you before Campbell's book on the Atonement, which is invaluable as far as it goes; but unluckily he knows nothing except Protestant theology." (Hort, Life and Letters, Vol. I, p. 322)
"The popular doctrine of substitution is an immoral and material counterfeit...nothing can be more unscriptural than the limiting of Christ's bearing our sins and sufferings to His death; but indeed that is only one aspect of an almost universal heresy." (Hort to Westcott, Life and Letters, Vol. I, p. 430)
"I confess I have no repugnance to the primitive doctrine of a ransom paid to Satan. I can see no other possible form in which the doctrine of a ransom is at all tenable; anything is better than the doctrine of a ransom to the father." (Hort, The First Epistle of St. Peter 1:1-2:17, p. 77).
*Concerning Man:*
"It is of course true that we can only know God through human forms, but then I think the whole Bible echoes the language of Genesis 1:27 and so assures us that human forms are divine forms." (Hort to Westcott, August 14, 1860)
"Protestants (must) unlearn the crazy horror of the idea of Priesthood." (Hort, Life and Letters, Volume II, pp. 49-51)
*Concerning Roman Catholicism:*
"I wish I could see to what forgotten truth Mariolatry (the worship of the Virgin Mary) bears witness." (Westcott, Ibid. )
"I have been persuaded for many years that Mary-Worship and Jesus-Worship have very much in common." (Hort, Life and Letters, Volume II, pp. 49-51)
"The pure Romanish view seems to be nearer, and more likely to lead to the truth than the Evangelical." (Hort, Life and Letters, Vol. I, p. 77) "I agree with you in thinking it a pity that Maurice verbally repudiates purgatory . . . the idea of purgation, cleansing by fire, seems to me inseparable from what the Bible teaches us of the Divine chastisements." (Hort, Life and Letters, Vol. II, pp. 336,337)
*Concerning the Cumulative Effect of Multiple Changes to the Manuscripts:*
"It is quite impossible to judge the value of what appear to be trifling alterations merely by reading them one after another. Taken together, they have often important bearings which few would think of at first. . . The difference between a picture, say of Raffaelle, and a feeble copy of it is made up of a number of trivial differences. . . We have successfully resisted being warned off dangerous ground, where the needs of revision required that it should not be shirked. . . It is, one can hardly doubt, the beginning of a new period in Church history. So far the angry objectors have reason for their astonishment." (Hort, Life and Letters, Vol.I, pp. 138,139)
Final Comments:
It is one thing to have doctrinal differences on baby-sprinkling and perhaps a few other interpretations. It is quite another to be a Darwinian theologian who rejects the authority of scriptures, Biblical salvation, the reality of hell, substitutionary atonement, makes Christ a created being to be worshipped with Mary his mother, and to openly admit that your "trifling alterations" with the Greek Text have begun a "new period in Church history"!! Yet, these were the views of both Westcott and Hort!! This is UNBELIEVABLE!!

No less significant is the fact that both men were involved with the occult and were members of spiritist societies (the Hermes Club and the Ghostly Guild), and both men supposedly "talked" to Spirits of the dead.
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In the very first revision of the KJV Bible, the "Revised Version of 1881 in the footnote alternative text for Galatians 5:12 are the words - "mutilate themselves"
The King James Version Reads: "I would they were even cut off which trouble you"
The NIV 1985 Reads: "As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves"
It is incomprehensible, that Paul would be so childish, as to take a malice "bite" at the Judaizers and be outright contrary to his serious advice in the next 3 verses - Galatians 5:13-15 (KJV)
13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

Paul is expressing God's desire that the troubling law preaching legalists would be cut off from contact with the Galatian Church, not an embittered vitreolic remark that the Judaizers should go and "mutilate" their sex parts! Such a doctrinal  error, and falsification of Paul's spiritual and Godly counsel to the Church labels the NIV Bible a comic book falsity!

23-7-2024.

Let's put this flagrant translation abuse to the 'Contextual' and 'Doctrinal' test.

CONTEXTUAL TEST.

The construct is completely changed in the NIV from something that should happen 'to them' to something that 'they should do to themselves'. Such an objective change to the "Text"  is a wild one and on that account the 'newcomer' translation is to be relegated to the dumb stack.

The "Context" of verse 12 must take in Paul's previous words right from the beginning of the chapter, and his plea for the Galatian believers to "stand fast" in "the liberty" and not to be "entangled" with the yoke of the law on circumcision, which would cause them to be divorced from a beneficial relationship with Christ. IE. - "Christ shall profit you nothing" [5:2]. The matter is a dire one, and Paul is clearly dealing with a "persuasion" [Galatians 5:8] of spiritual magnitude, not a mere physical change to body parts. The "Context" down to verse 15 with Paul's warning to the saints of the danger of verbally taking a "bite" at one another, disallows the insinuation of the NIV, that Paul was having a malice "bite" at the Judaizers and thus demonstrating himself to be a hypocrite!

DOCTRINAL TEST.

The NIV paints Paul as a spiritual junior in doctrinal matters. Even if the judaizers did "mutilate" or "emasculate themselves", what does that mean? The male Law givers would already be circumsised! So, is the NIV and Westcot and Hort and James Strong Hebrew and Greek concordance really saying, that the apostle Paul is saying, that they should literally slash their private parts to bits?  THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE THE DOCTRINAL "PERSUASION" [verse 8] OF THE LAW GIVERS! These law givers would continue their attempted subjugation of the Galatian believers because their doctrinal "persuasion" is from the heart and spirit and selfrighteous mind and has NOTHING to do with the health of their body parts! Everybody knows that having a hip replacement doesn't CHANGE WHAT YOU BELIEVE! Such rhetoric from Paul would label him before the Galatian Church as a man of "words to no profit", lacking understanding and spiritually dangerous. [2 Timothy 2:15].

What about the women Judaizers? Would it also be encumbered upon them to mutilate themselves as part of Paul's remedy for the saints freedom from judaistic tyranny? How absurd is the devious insinuations of the NIV translation about Paul's doctrine!

No, the only answer is that the troublesome law givers be "cut off" from contact and influence among the fellowship of believers in the Galatian Church.

There is no doubt about the real position of the apostle, because of the 'tenor' of his whole letter. The introduction of his allegory of Hagar, the bond woman and her son, at the end of chapter four complements his strong advise to "cut off" them that were 'troubling' the Church with the judaistic doctrine of circumsision.

Gal 4:30 "Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman".

The "Cast out" in chapter 4 and verse 30, is fully in line with his "cut off" from contact with the Judaizers in chapter 5 and verse 12.

Clearly, the doctrinal test relegates the NIV Bible to the scrap heap of modern versions

The Lord "look upon" us in our great need in these end times, of the "falling away" from the absolute authoritative integrity and purity of the Word of God by which we are meant to "be partakers of his divine nature".

1Pe 1:23 "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever".

Grant Hayman.